This site operated by generous people volunteering their time. Your contribution keeps us up and running. Thank you.
The Menagerie play by post RPG would like to thank both Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson for their Dungeons & Dragons role playing game. They made the world that much more fantastic.
Margrett [M:277:537:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=379&page=1#3797] member is offline
Don't Even Bother
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,379
Mage Guild idea. « Thread Started on Jun 10, 2012, 5:28pm »
Don asked me to help him with an idea for a Mage Guild, and that was a terrible, terrible idea. I had an idea for something, then it spiraled out of control and gave me this. I didn't want to just go with a classic "mage guild" or one that would have a stated goal that would align too closely to either Sentinel or Vanguard ideologies. I also wanted one with a bit of built-in plot and a few different reasons for character motivation should they join it, or have a backstory in it.
The Department of Thaumaturgical Affairs.
Or DTA for short. An ancient organization founded centuries ago by mages and magic users from all stripes and fonts of magic, the DTA is unbound by nationality, religion, race, or political affiliation. Part educational system, part research foundation, part disposal unit and part public awareness group, the Department oversees, maintains, secures, and advises anyone who would require its help when it comes to matters of magic. From voodoo practitioners to clerics of young gods to warlocks to sorcerers, no kind of extranormal power is turned away.
When a powerful wizard dies and his artifacts and creations are unwatched, the DTA steps in. When a child is born and flowers bloom in her wake, the DTA is there. When the undead rise from their graves and have existential questions, the DTA has a pamphlet for that. When a kingdom needs rain, the DTA is there to advise which kind of magic would be the most cost-effective to cause the downpour.
Spread out through all nations and lands, the DTA has many offices and vaults in various important places. Recently, reports have been coming in from a little border town, the town of Wistvale. Buzzing with an incredibly high level of magical phenomenon, a group is dispatched to set up a branch office and investigate...
-----
So magic-type players could "belong" to the DTA and be in that group, or just be associated with it through being trained in magic, or simply know of it because it is a big presence. Nonmagical characters could use it as a font of knowledge, official bits of lore could be associated with it, and leftover magical artifacts from adventures could be stored in a communal "vault" along with a pseudo-scientific "report" on what it is and where it came from.
Completely open to scathing criticism and complete rejection of the idea.
Kiko Administrator [M:765:2229:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=378&page=1#8679] member is offline
[b]Walk on the edge and bleed.[/b][0:Running With The Pack][1:Wherever I May Roam]
Joined: Sept 2011 Gender: Female Posts: 2,177
Re: Mage Guild idea. « Reply #1 on Jun 10, 2012, 6:32pm »
Critisism 1: God moding. IMO. Especially this part of the description:
When a powerful wizard dies and his artifacts and creations are unwatched, the DTA steps in. When a child is born and flowers bloom in her wake, the DTA is there. When the undead rise from their graves and have existential questions, the DTA has a pamphlet for that. When a kingdom needs rain, the DTA is there to advise which kind of magic would be the most cost-effective to cause the downpour.
We state, quite rightly, that character design and play be modest. That such is much more entertaining to read than: "I am God and this and this happens because of it." If we ask this of those that play the game, they should expect the same of us. I am assuming, of course, that the DTA would be used in by a GM in the above stated capacity. And giving the players the answer or magick object to solve the puzzle or find the MacGuffin feels like god moding to me.
I'm not saying it would be used this way, of course. This is just my thoughts on it.
“Put some clothes on, you weird, yellow-eyed, table-dancing, werewolf-training, cryptic, stare-me-right-in-the-eyes-and-don't-even-blink wench.”
Margrett [M:277:537:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=379&page=1#3797] member is offline
Don't Even Bother
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,379
Re: Mage Guild idea. « Reply #2 on Jun 10, 2012, 6:38pm »
That's a good point; I didn't think of it that way. I was mostly thinking that the players involved would be more researching any adventures or problems as a character motivation, rather than using it to godmod. Though I do agree it could be used that way.
Margrett [M:277:537:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=379&page=1#3797] member is offline
Don't Even Bother
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,379
Re: Mage Guild idea. « Reply #3 on Jun 10, 2012, 9:18pm »
Also, as a note. The "base" of the DTA in Wistvale would be new and very small, and not have access to the comprehensive library of the whole Department. Players would fill it in as they go, and GMs could choose to dispense information on a very small case-by-case basis.
Ursine [M:5:25:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=377&page=1#14973] member is offline
Time is a roiling ocean, and yours is naught but a tear into the maelstrom.
Joined: Nov 2011 Gender: Female Posts: 40
Re: Mage Guild idea. « Reply #6 on Jun 10, 2012, 10:49pm »
Lots and lots of magic happens, really. That's about it.
But I like Marg's idea. Where Kiko sees that it could be used for god-modding, I see an institution that, for various reasons, could hinder or even actively attempt to stop an adventure, adding a possible third party to conflicts involving magic. And I think that, as long as GMs don't go handing out the specific McGuffin that you need to finish this adventure or that every time, then it doesn't really qualify as god-modding. And maybe, every time a player receives help from the Department, it goes on a tab of some sort, and the Department could try to collect on that by asking for favors, or something along that line.
Kiga Game Masters [M:398:585:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=392&page=1#9798] member is offline
[b]Gold talks, but purchases silence.[/b][0:Away with the birds.][1:The winds stir....]
Joined: Oct 2011 Gender: Male Posts: 772
Re: Mage Guild idea. « Reply #7 on Jun 10, 2012, 11:13pm »
To me? It sounds excessive and complicated. I think we're divided on it so a revisit to the drawing board might be in order. If only Alec would show up...
How about an Anti-Mage guild. Maybe or maybe not villians. They see magick as unnatural and extremists believe it should be outlawed under penalty of death. They would go on quests to destroy magickal items and such. Given the number of people here that use magick in one way or another, it could be interesting.
Think Civil War storyline and Mutant Registration Act from Marvel Comics, or Merlin from SciFi channel TV. (Yes I know its supposed to be SyFy, but I refused to acknowledge the change lol)
Welcome to The Menagerie. We are a free role playing game with less rules and more freedom. After many years, a couple of hosts and a few different game systems, we feel that less is more. Players get to be truly creative, which in turn leads to more enjoyment in game.
We invite you to join us in crafting our world and look forward to making friends. Should you have any questions, feel free to post in our chat box or ask any of our members or staff.
May you enjoy your stay.
It must be said that this game is the product of continued dedication and friendship.
Grayell: Game inventor and closet basement geek.
Yukiko: Admin and dream-weaver.
Marlena: Admin and promoter extraordinaire.
The Menagerie has enjoyed many incarnations, revamps, reimaginings and renovations and none of it would have been possible without the ongoing support of my friends, the players. Their unwavering loyalty and endless dedication to this project has been stellar.
I would like to thank all admin and staff past and present, in particular Tiberius.
I would like to thank friends and staff no longer with us, and to the few I hold most dear: John, Roland, Alex, Azriel and Jenkins.
Thank you all.
All images are the property of their creator.
Our 2nd site archive with: Total posts 70665, Total topics 1819 & Total Members 86.
...or our first site archive with: Total posts 69401, Total topics 1325 & Total members 145
...OR the very humble start of our game at our friends, www.Heroscapers.com.
![[Home]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/home-4.png "[Home]")
![[New Topics]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/new-1.png "[New Topics]")
![[Help]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/help-4.png "[Help]")
![[Search]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/search-4.png "[Search]")
![[Login]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/login-4.png "[Login]")
![[Register]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/register-4.png "[Register]")
![[Search This Thread]](http://images.proboards.com/new/buttons/search2.png "[Search This Thread]")
![[Share Topic]](http://images.proboards.com/new/buttons/share.png "[Share Topic]")
![[Print]](http://images.proboards.com/new/buttons/print.png "[Print]")
Author![[image]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/sentinels.png "[image]")
[M:277:537:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=379&page=1#3797]![[avatar]](http://i50.tinypic.com/2ugi6gj.jpg "[avatar]")
![[homepage]](http://images.proboards.com/new/buttons/www_sm.png "[homepage]")
Logged![[image]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/vanguard-1.png "[image]")
[M:765:2229:][D3v:http://rpgmenagerie.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=cs&thread=378&page=1#8679]![[avatar]](http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/ladynightseduction/newkiko.gif "[avatar]")
![[avatar]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/graytest.gif "[avatar]")
![[avatar]](http://drakonis.org/uploads/7/v/0/7v0ng7m0e3/2010/09/19/20100919234011-ff1309d7.jpg "[avatar]")
![[avatar]](http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/ladynightseduction/UrsinesAvatar-Animated.gif "[avatar]"){kind=avatar}
![[avatar]](http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll229/Menagerie-rpg/kiganew.gif "[avatar]")
![[avatar]](http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y535/AlxNeko/th_Neko_zpsceeff0ed.jpg "[avatar]")
